Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

03/08/2022 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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             HB 172-MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES & MEDS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:46:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  announced that  the  final order  of  business                                                              
would  be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  172,   "An  Act  relating  to  crisis                                                              
stabilization  centers, crisis residential  centers, and  subacute                                                              
mental  health  facilities;  relating  to  evaluation  facilities;                                                              
relating  to  representation  by  an  attorney;  relating  to  the                                                              
administration of  psychotropic medication in a  crisis situation;                                                              
relating  to  the  use of  psychotropic  medication;  relating  to                                                              
licensed  facilities;  relating  to  psychiatric  patient  rights;                                                              
amending  Rule   6(a),  Alaska  Rules  of  Civil   Procedure;  and                                                              
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee was CSHB 172(JUD).]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY  noted there would be no public  testimony today                                                              
at the first hearing of HB 172.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  WILLIAMS, Chief  Executive  Officer,  Alaska Mental  Health                                                              
Trust  Authority (AMHTA),  Department of  Revenue, co-presented  a                                                              
PowerPoint  presentation  on  CSHB   172(JUD)  on  behalf  of  the                                                              
sponsor, House Rules  by request of the governor.   He stated that                                                              
currently Alaskans  in mental health  crises are reliant  on first                                                              
responders  and   others  to  address   their  needs   and  access                                                              
available  resources  to resolve  these  crises.   He  said  that,                                                              
while police officers  ensure public safety, they  are not trained                                                              
in the area of  mental health, and emergency  room or correctional                                                              
facility staff are  not necessarily trained either.   He noted, if                                                              
there  are no  other  resources  in the  community  to address  an                                                              
individual's behavioral  health crisis, that person may  end up in                                                              
a correctional facility.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:50:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER  CARPENTER,  Healthcare   Policy  Advisor,  Department  of                                                              
Health  and  Social Services  (DHSS),  co-presented  a  PowerPoint                                                              
presentation  on CSHB  172(JUD) on  behalf of  the sponsor,  House                                                              
Rules  by request  of the governor.    She showed  slide 2 of  the                                                              
PowerPoint  ["Transforming a  Behavioral Health  Crisis System  of                                                              
Care", included  in the  committee packet].   She echoed  that the                                                              
state  has   a  limited  amount   of  designated   evaluation  and                                                              
treatment  facilities.  She  explained that  these facilities  are                                                              
designated   by   DHSS   for   inpatient   care   of   individuals                                                              
experiencing   an  acute   level   of  crisis,   and  they   serve                                                              
involuntary   and   voluntary  individuals.      Currently   these                                                              
facilities  only  exist  in  the   following  Alaska  communities:                                                              
Juneau, at  Bartlett Regional Hospital,  with 12  beds; Fairbanks,                                                              
at  Fairbanks Memorial  Hospital,  with  20 beds;  the  Matanuska-                                                              
Susitna Valley,  at Matsu Regional  Medical Center, with  16 beds;                                                              
and Anchorage,  at the  Alaska Psychiatric  Institute (API).   She                                                              
noted  that  hospital emergency  rooms  are  often used  to  serve                                                              
individuals  when  other  facilities  are  full.    She  described                                                              
emergency rooms  as being  "hectic" and  not being "a  therapeutic                                                              
environment."   She pointed  out that  the information  graphic on                                                              
slide  2 depicts  the  current  flow for  involuntary  commitment.                                                              
She  stressed  that  the state's  behavioral  health  crisis  fits                                                              
poorly into the system depicted.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS  stated  when  someone   is  in  a  physical  health                                                              
emergency, it  is a given the  system will respond and  the person                                                              
will be taken care  of medically.  He insisted this  is what needs                                                              
to   happen  when   someone   experiences   a  behavioral   health                                                              
emergency.   Continuing to  slide 3, he  stated that  the proposed                                                              
legislation would  put into action  a "no wrong door"  approach to                                                              
stabilization  services,  and  DHSS  would be  able  to  designate                                                              
facilities  for  lower  levels  of  care  for  early  intervention                                                              
during a  behavioral health crisis.   He described the  two levels                                                              
of  facilities as  a 23-hour  and  59-minute crisis  stabilization                                                              
center  and a  short-term  residential  center for  care  up to  7                                                              
days.  He stated  that the legislation would not  only address the                                                              
care of people  in crisis, but  it would also ensure  their rights                                                              
are protected.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER  stated  that  DHSS and  AMHTA  have  been  working                                                              
together for  the last six  years to improve  the system  of care.                                                              
She pointed  out the building  blocks for  the system on  slide 4.                                                              
She  mentioned Senate  Bill  74,  passed during  the  Twenty-Ninth                                                              
Alaska  State Legislature,  as being  a "huge  step."  To  improve                                                              
the department's  behavioral  health system  of care, Senate  Bill                                                              
74  directed DHSS  to apply  for  a Section  1115 Medicaid  waiver                                                              
("1115 waiver").   She said the 1115 waiver "was  a game changer,"                                                              
driving  down the  cost  of health  care  by  enabling payment  to                                                              
providers of  critical behavioral  health support, which  includes                                                              
crisis  stabilization and  crisis residential  services.   Through                                                              
the waiver,  gaps are filled, and  individuals can be  diverted to                                                              
the appropriate  level  of care,  instead of  the higher level  of                                                              
care  at hospitals.    By leveraging  the  1115  waiver, she  said                                                              
that,  instead of  flying  individuals to  one  of four  inpatient                                                              
treatment  centers,  the goal  would  be  to have  more  treatment                                                              
options  in all  regions of  the state.   In the  end, this  would                                                              
save  the state  money.   She  added that  most  individuals in  a                                                              
mental health crisis  are treated on a voluntary  basis, but there                                                              
needs  to be  an improved  crisis  response system  for those  who                                                              
cannot seek care on a voluntary basis.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:56:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS,  referring to  slide 5,  pointed out the  comparison                                                              
between the  systems of  care for  physical and behavioral  health                                                              
emergencies.     He  spoke  about   the  work  done   between  the                                                              
department  and  stakeholders to  redesign  the crisis  system  of                                                              
care to  serve physical  and mental  needs.   He offered  that the                                                              
[Crisis Now]  model is supported  nationally.  He  listed multiple                                                              
organizations  that  have  voiced  support and  offered  that  the                                                              
model  has  been proven  in  other  states.    He showed  slide  6                                                              
regarding stakeholder  engagement,  stating that many  individuals                                                              
and  organizations have  come forward  in support  of this  issue.                                                              
He  stressed that  this is  vital  for the  transformation of  the                                                              
system  and improving  access  to  care, as  "it's  going to  take                                                              
everyone," not just DHSS and AMHTA.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:58:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENTER  discussed slide  7, which shows  the model  for the                                                              
new  crisis  services.   She  stated  that adding  these  services                                                              
would  speed  up care  and  leave  open  emergency room  beds  for                                                              
[physical medical emergencies].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  addressed slide  8, which  outlines the  features of                                                              
the  23-hour  and  59-minute  crisis  stabilization  center.    He                                                              
reinforced this would  be the lowest level of  intervention for an                                                              
individual  in  an  actual  facility.     The  services  would  be                                                              
provided by  medical and mental  health professionals, as  well as                                                              
peers  and  others  with real-life  experience.    The  individual                                                              
would be received  at the door by these providers,  who would take                                                              
over the  care and responsibility  from a mobile crisis  team, law                                                              
enforcement, or  emergency medical services (EMS).   This transfer                                                              
has  been  reported  from  other  states as  being  less  than  10                                                              
minutes.   He stated  that  the goal would  be to  provide a  safe                                                              
place  to  resolve  a  crisis  without   unnecessarily  using  the                                                              
highest level of care.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS,  moving  on  to slide  9,  stated  that  short-term                                                              
crisis residential  centers would  be for individuals  who require                                                              
more treatment  because of an acute  crisis.  These  centers would                                                              
be similar  in terms  of team makeup  to the crisis  stabilization                                                              
centers.   He  stated this  would  be a  higher level  of care  to                                                              
hopefully  resolve the crisis  and reconnect  the individual  with                                                              
community services  and support  to maintain  the gains made.   He                                                              
reiterated  that  a key  element  would  be services  provided  by                                                              
people with lived  experience, who could relate  to the individual                                                              
and help them  understand the care that he/she  would be receiving                                                              
at the location.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:01:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He described  the graphic  [on slide 10]  which depicts  ten years                                                              
of data  on the  outcomes from the  system in  Georgia.   The data                                                              
shows  90 percent of  crisis calls  were resolved  over the  phone                                                              
with a healthcare  professional.  For the remainder  of the crisis                                                              
calls,  a   mobile  crisis  team   had  been  dispatched   to  the                                                              
individual to assess  the situation.  The data shows  seven out of                                                              
ten of  those responses had been  resolved in the  community, with                                                              
no  higher level  of  care or  law enforcement  needed.   For  the                                                              
three  mobile  crisis team  responses  that  remained  unresolved,                                                              
those individuals  had been  taken to  a short-term  stabilization                                                              
center.   He continued that  data shows only  one out of  three of                                                              
these situations  had been transferred  to the crisis  residential                                                              
center for  the seven days of  access to treatment.   He explained                                                              
that, with  a system  intentionally designed,  resources  would be                                                              
realigned into  traditional roles:  law enforcement  would protect                                                              
public safety,  investigate  cases, write  reports, and appear  in                                                              
court,  while   mental  health  professionals  would   respond  to                                                              
individuals in crisis.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:04:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER stated  that  the involuntary  commitment  statutes                                                              
are found  in Title  47 of  the Alaska  Statutes.   The goal  with                                                              
[CSHB  172(JUD)]  would be  to  add  new  levels of  care  without                                                              
rewriting   Title  47.     She  stated   that  DHSS,   AMHTA,  and                                                              
stakeholders had  worked to identify  the Crisis Now model  as the                                                              
best  path forward  for Alaska.   The  team identified  weaknesses                                                              
and strengths  in the  current system  and reviewed  the model  in                                                              
action in other  states.  She stated that AMHTA has  worked on the                                                              
implementation  process of  the  Crisis Now  model within  Alaska,                                                              
while DHSS  has implemented  services from the  1115 waiver.   She                                                              
referenced  a lawsuit that  DHSS settled  with the Disability  Law                                                              
Center of  Alaska.   The lawsuit  concerned individuals  in crisis                                                              
who  had been  held at  correction facilities  involuntarily.   As                                                              
part of  the settlement,  DHSS had been  directed to  advocate for                                                              
statutory changes,  as in  the proposed  legislation.   She listed                                                              
key  points  of   the  proposed  legislation:  provide   for  less                                                              
restrictive  and  more immediate  systems  of care  for  patients;                                                              
create more facilities  for patients; take the  responsibility for                                                              
care away from  hospital emergency rooms; provide  law enforcement                                                              
with  more options;  and  expand the  types  of first  responders.                                                              
She  clarified that  the legislation  would not  interfere with  a                                                              
police  officer's authority,  change  the  statutory authority  to                                                              
administer  medication,  change the  statutory  authority for  who                                                              
can order  an involuntary commitment,  or reduce the rights  of an                                                              
adult or juvenile in crisis.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS explained  the graphic on slide 13,  illustrating the                                                              
"current  flow" for  involuntary commitment.   He  noted that  law                                                              
enforcement  is currently  the default  response  to an  emergency                                                              
call.  At  this point, the  choices for law enforcement  for these                                                              
individuals  are a  hospital emergency  room,  jail, or  emergency                                                              
hold.   He explained  that an emergency  hold entails  putting the                                                              
individual in handcuffs  in the back of a police  vehicle until an                                                              
appropriate place  for the  individual is found.   He  stated that                                                              
none of  these options  are productive.   He expressed  confidence                                                              
that  the proposed  legislation  would redesign  the  system.   He                                                              
clarified that law  enforcement and EMS would not be  taken out of                                                              
the  system, but  they would  not be  the default.   He  suggested                                                              
that  the  implementation  of the  system  would  not have  to  be                                                              
linear, as the resources in communities would be diverse.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:11:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  moved to slide  15 which  outlines the flow  for the                                                              
statutory changes.   He  reiterated that  law enforcement  and EMS                                                              
would still  be part  of the equation,  but these resources  would                                                              
not be  the default.   He stated  that the goal  would be  to take                                                              
the individual  to the appropriate  care to resolve the  crisis in                                                              
a way that is less restrictive.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER  spoke  to  the   changes  made  in  the  committee                                                              
substitute in the  last committee of referral [exhibited  on slide                                                              
16].   She said a key  change had been  made to the  definition of                                                              
"peace  officer,"  aligning  it  with  current  definitions  found                                                              
elsewhere  in  the  statutes.   The  language  removed  from  this                                                              
definition  has  been  used  to  create a  new  definition  for  a                                                              
"health  officer".   She listed  some of the  other changes  which                                                              
include: the  length of  stay at  a short-term crisis  residential                                                              
center would  change from five  to seven days; concerning  patient                                                              
rights, the  72-hour clock would  start when an  individual enters                                                              
any  crisis center;  the court  would  be required  to notify  any                                                              
guardian  if a patient  had a  hearing; the  seven-day hold  would                                                              
begin at the  time of initial retainment, no  matter the facility;                                                              
and  DHSS  and AMHTA  would  collect  data  and issue  reports  on                                                              
patient harm,  restraint, and  resolution.   She added  that these                                                              
reports would  bring together a  group of diverse  stakeholders to                                                              
investigate and  discuss the topic  and the process in  Alaska and                                                              
other  states.    The  group  would   propose  needed  changes  to                                                              
regulations  and statute.   She said  a key  part of this  process                                                              
would include  robust public comment.   She stated that,  once the                                                              
legislation is  signed into law, there  would be one year  to come                                                              
back  to  legislature  with recommendations  and  an  action  plan                                                              
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  asked  committee   members  to  exercise  some                                                              
restraint with  questions, as three  invited testimonies  were yet                                                              
to be heard.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:16:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    SPOHNHOLZ   expressed    enthusiasm   for    the                                                              
legislation.     While  the   committee's   focus  has  been   the                                                              
stabilization  centers,   she  questioned  how  the   crisis  call                                                              
centers  and  mobile  crisis  teams would  fit  into  the  funding                                                              
stream with the 1115 waiver.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:17:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENNIFER   MOREAU-JOHNSON,   Director,  Division   of   Behavioral                                                              
Health,  Department of  Health and  Social  Services, stated  that                                                              
the 1115  waiver reimbursement would  currently be for  the mobile                                                              
crisis response and  both types of crisis centers but  not for the                                                              
call  center.     She  indicated  that  work  needs   be  done  to                                                              
understand the access  to the Medicaid administration  funding for                                                              
the call center.   She affirmed that the call center  would not be                                                              
funded.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:19:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KURKA  expressed concern about taking  freedom from                                                              
someone who is having  a mental crisis.  He expressed  interest in                                                              
the comparison of  due process rights proposed  in the legislation                                                              
with the due process rights in the criminal justice system.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:20:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STACIE  KRALY,  Director,  Civil   Division,  Department  of  Law,                                                              
explained  that she  does not practice  law in  the civil  justice                                                              
system,  and a  more  concrete answer  on  an  "apples to  apples"                                                              
comparison between  civil commitment for the Crisis  Now model and                                                              
the criminal  justice system would  need to be supplied  after the                                                              
hearing.   She  stated  that the  civil  commitment  process is  a                                                              
constitutional exercise  of the federal government  to empower the                                                              
police at  the state and federal  level.  Due process  is provided                                                              
at  all different  levels within  this  system.   In the  proposed                                                              
legislation  due process would  include the  right to  an attorney                                                              
and a  court hearing.  She  suggested that the  similarities would                                                              
be, at the  time of admission,  counsel would be appointed,  and a                                                              
judicial  review of  the decisions  would be  made.  In  addition,                                                              
the individual  would receive a  list of entitled rights,  and the                                                              
guardian or  parents would  be notified.   She continued  that due                                                              
process protections  would be added  and included in  this system,                                                              
as they exist under  Title 47 of the Alaska Statutes.   She stated                                                              
that it  is important  to note one  major difference:  an attorney                                                              
would always  be appointed,  present, and  available in  the civil                                                              
commitment arena,  while in the  criminal arena it would  be based                                                              
on indigency, and  some individuals may not be  eligible for court                                                              
appointed counsel.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:23:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY, addressing  slide 13, questioned  whether                                                              
currently  an  ex   parte  order  would  be  needed   to  move  an                                                              
individual from a  [23-hour and 59-minute] hold to  the next level                                                              
of care.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  addressed slide 15 and the  timeframe.  He                                                              
voiced the understanding  that, if needed, an individual  would be                                                              
put  on  a  72-hour  hold,  but   he/she  must  leave  the  crisis                                                              
stabilization center  within the 23-hour and 59-minute  limit.  He                                                              
questioned the location  of the individual before  he/she would be                                                              
evaluated for the 7-day hold.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS clarified  that the 23-hour and 59-minute  hold would                                                              
be  a part  of the  72-hour  timeframe.   The  72-hour time  limit                                                              
would begin  with a  notice for  a scheduled hearing.   If  at any                                                              
point  the individual  no longer  meets the criteria  to be  held,                                                              
then he/she would be released.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY, with  a follow-up  question, stated  that                                                              
his understanding  is  a judge must  determine  the status  of the                                                              
individual.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRALY  confirmed that Mr. Williams  is correct.  The  72 hours                                                              
would be  a timing mechanism.   She stated that upon  admission, a                                                              
clock would  start, and a  hearing must  be held within  72 hours.                                                              
She added  that weekends  and holidays  would  not be included  in                                                              
the timeframe.   She stated that  the 72-hour timeframe  would not                                                              
be  a  benchmark.    If  an  individual  stabilizes,  based  on  a                                                              
clinical  determination, he/she  could  be released,  and a  judge                                                              
would  not be  involved.    A judge  would  be required  only  if,                                                              
within 72 hours,  it is determined the individual  needs more care                                                              
on an involuntarily basis.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   ZULKOSKY   reminded    committee   members   that   the                                                              
legislation  will come back  before the  committee, and  she moved                                                              
to invited testimony.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:28:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK  REGAN, Legal  Director,  Disability  Law Center  of  Alaska,                                                              
spoke to Representative  Kurka's previous question  concerning due                                                              
process.   He related  that the  Alaska Supreme  Court holds  that                                                              
the  current civil  commitment  process is  "based  on a  probable                                                              
cause  finding at  the  start that  you  are  gravely disabled  or                                                              
because of a  mental illness, likely to harm  yourself or others."                                                              
He stated that this  is the standard.  He continued  that, per the                                                              
proposed   legislation,  an   ex  parte   order  would  hold   the                                                              
individual  in place  for  72 hours.    The Alaska  Supreme  Court                                                              
issues that this  is constitutional only because there  would be a                                                              
right to a prompt  hearing within 72 hours.  He  supplied that the                                                              
burden  would be  on the  state to  have the  individual held  any                                                              
longer.   The difference in  the criminal  system would be  that a                                                              
person  could  be  arrested  and taken  into  custody  before  any                                                              
involvement with a  judge.  He stated that the  systems would work                                                              
in  the  same  way,  but  HB  172   would  allow  for  the  prompt                                                              
appointment for an attorney and  a prompt hearing before a judge.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:32:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  REGAN, concerning  the  aforementioned  lawsuit, stated  that                                                              
the  Disability  Law  Center  and  public  defenders  brought  the                                                              
lawsuit because  individuals  had been deprived  of liberty  under                                                              
the  old  system.   He  expressed  the  belief  that it  would  be                                                              
tempting  to blame API,  but he  explained that  API did  not have                                                              
the  capacity  to  routinely  take  people  for  civil  commitment                                                              
evaluations for  the 72-hour period; therefore,  individuals ended                                                              
in jail or  hospital emergency rooms.   He continued that  API was                                                              
only one part of  a stressed system.  During the  breakdown of API                                                              
in the winter of  2018 and 2019, individuals had  been held at the                                                              
Anchorage correctional  complex.  He  stated that a video  tour of                                                              
the  complex  from  intake  to evaluation  shows  "it  is  a  grim                                                              
system."   He added  that home  videos can  sometimes come  across                                                              
dark,  but  the  complex  was "a  sterile,  stark  place  and  not                                                              
therapeutic  at all."   He  added  that other  individuals in  the                                                              
state were being  held in emergency rooms  awaiting transportation                                                              
to  API.   He  maintained that  the  key point  is  these are  not                                                              
therapeutic,  psychiatric-oriented  places  which  could  help  an                                                              
individual  resolve a  short-term crisis.   He  said, "If  you are                                                              
greatly disabled  or likely to harm  yourself, you ought  to be at                                                              
a place  that is better  able to help  you."  He  articulated that                                                              
this is  the reason the  lawsuit endorsed  the idea of  Crisis Now                                                              
facilities,  so  people  could get  short-term  treatment  without                                                              
waiting in  jails and hospitals.   He stated  that the  law center                                                              
supports  HB 172  because  "people have  a  basic right  to ...  a                                                              
happier,  friendlier  place that  does  more to  treat  you."   He                                                              
suggested  that  the problems  at  API  had affected  hundreds  of                                                              
Alaskans, and there should be a better system.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:37:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SPOHNHOLZ  asked   for  a   description  of   the                                                              
appointment  of  the  guardian,   as  well  as  the  attorney,  to                                                              
advocate on behalf of the patient.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. REGAN  explained he cannot speak  to guardianship, as  the law                                                              
center is not  responsible for this piece of  the legislation, but                                                              
he can speak  to the appointment  of the attorney.   He referenced                                                              
past  issues concerning  assigned attorneys,  which left  patients                                                              
"stuck" in  emergency rooms or jails,  with the sense that  no one                                                              
would  be looking  out for  them.  If  an individual  is in  acute                                                              
mental crisis,  the need for a lawyer  may not be evident  to this                                                              
individual.  He  stated that a lawyer would give  the individual a                                                              
sense  of an  upcoming resolution,  especially for  the first  72-                                                              
hour hearing.  At  that time, a decision would be  made whether to                                                              
hold the individual longer at a crisis residential center.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. REGAN,  in response to  a follow-up question,  apologized, but                                                              
reiterated  that  he could  not  speak  on  the appointment  of  a                                                              
guardian or guardianship.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:40:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HELEN ADAMS,  MD, Emergency Medical  Physician, Alaska  Chapter of                                                              
Emergency  Physicians,  testified  in support  of  CSHB  172(JUD).                                                              
She expressed  the opinion that,  as in the entire  nation, Alaska                                                              
is experiencing  a mental  health crisis, and  the state  does not                                                              
have  the capacity  to  care for  the  increase  in mental  health                                                              
emergency room  visits.   She explained  that the open-door  model                                                              
would  be helpful  because,  in her  experience,  the majority  of                                                              
these people are  desperate for help.  She stated  that within the                                                              
four  years  of working  in  Anchorage,  she  only had  one  upset                                                              
patient who  requested an attorney.   She voiced her  opinion that                                                              
many emergency care  rooms are equipped to deal with  a variety of                                                              
crises,  as  Anchorage  has  an  appropriate  seven-bed  unit  for                                                              
mentally  ill patients.   But  she  added that  when patients  are                                                              
moved into the  general emergency room area, there  is very little                                                              
control over the  noise and exposure to other  patients.  Patients                                                              
are able  to [easily  escape from emergency  rooms], which  in the                                                              
end involves  security  staff.   She maintained  that this  is not                                                              
the best place to care for these patients.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:43:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. ADAMS continued  that a more appropriate  clinical environment                                                              
would be  better support  for these patients.   The  evidence from                                                              
other  states is  that an  individual in  crisis would  deescalate                                                              
more quickly in  the appropriate environment.  Plus,  this type of                                                              
environment would  require less  intervention, and there  would be                                                              
less stress on the  patient, and all involved.  She  stated that a                                                              
23-hour and  59-minute stabilization  system is practical  because                                                              
when  an individual  comes in,  often he/she  is very  intoxicated                                                              
and  should not  be  alone.   The  individual needs  to  be in  an                                                              
environment where  he/she can become  sober and be assessed.   She                                                              
stated  that the majority  of those  patients  want to leave  once                                                              
they  are  sober.    She emphasized  that  the  patients  who  are                                                              
required  to  transfer  to  residential  crisis  centers  are  the                                                              
minority, and  HB 172 would be  a good opportunity to  expand care                                                              
for these patients, otherwise the problem will be ongoing.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:45:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. ADAMS,  in response to  Co-Chair Zulkosky, voiced  her opinion                                                              
that the  proposed legislation would  provide for  actual physical                                                              
places  in  Alaska   where  care  for  these  patients   could  be                                                              
provided.  She  referenced her experience in Anchorage,  where the                                                              
backlog had  been so  extreme, some patients  were held  for hours                                                              
in  the back  of a  police vehicle  in the  hospital parking  lot.                                                              
She indicated  that  she would physically  go  to the parking  lot                                                              
and assess  the patient  to make sure  the patient was  physically                                                              
safe.   She voiced the  opinion that this  is a major  problem, as                                                              
ideally a  patient would  be admitted immediately  and put  into a                                                              
room with  a padded  bed on  the floor  with no potential  harmful                                                              
hardware in the  room.  The individual would be seen  quickly by a                                                              
mental  health clinician,  and  a  recommendation  would be  made.                                                              
She acknowledged  that unfortunately  this ideal standard  of care                                                              
is  more often  seen  only in  the minority  of  cases.   Instead,                                                              
individuals are  placed in a room  with equipment which  has to be                                                              
moved, and  a technician  has to  sit and  monitor the  person, as                                                              
he/she cannot  be left alone.   This process limits  the resources                                                              
and the  overall ability for the  emergency room situation  to run                                                              
efficiently.   The technicians normally  assist nurses,  so nurses                                                              
end up stressed.   She stated  that, overall, the system  does not                                                              
work effectively,  and medical patients  are not getting  the care                                                              
they need,  and this  contributes to  overburdening of  the health                                                              
system as  a whole.   She  stated that  HB 172  would allow  for a                                                              
more appropriate and concentrated  use of mental health services.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:48:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES COCKRELL,  Commissioner, Department of Public  Safety (DPS),                                                              
offered   the   support   of   CSHB    172(JUD)   personally   and                                                              
professionally.   He added  that DPS  fully supports the  proposed                                                              
legislation.    He  stated  that  "we've got  to  do  better"  for                                                              
individuals  who are  suffering  from mental  health  issues.   He                                                              
spoke briefly  about his personal  experience and a  family member                                                              
who went  to jail  after a  "mental collapse."   He insisted  that                                                              
individuals  should  not  be  sent  to  the  emergency  rooms,  as                                                              
hospitals  are   understaffed.    He  spoke  about   instances  of                                                              
policemen  driving around  for hours  with handcuffed  individuals                                                              
in the back of  their vehicles, because there was  nowhere to take                                                              
a person in a  mental health crisis.  He reiterated  that "we just                                                              
need to do it."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:52:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  shared his personal experience  working on                                                              
a crisis  mobile team.   In  Kodiak he  experienced an  individual                                                              
who was  in crisis that did  not receive timely  transportation to                                                              
API.     He  stated  that   the  individual  eventually   received                                                              
services,  but  their rights  had  been  infringed upon,  and  the                                                              
courts  became involved.    He voiced  approval  for the  proposed                                                              
legislation but  offered that he  did not understand the  flow, in                                                              
regard to the clock-start  time, [as exemplified on  slide 5].  He                                                              
expressed the  opinion that  a person in  crisis could be  lost in                                                              
the system, which would result in the infringement of rights.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:55:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   KRALY  explained   that,   upon   admission   to  a   crisis                                                              
stabilization  center, there would  be a  notice of arrival  which                                                              
triggers the  72-hour clock.   The notice  of arrival would  go to                                                              
the court,  and an attorney would  be appointed.  The  court would                                                              
set  a hearing  and provide  the guardian  with that  information.                                                              
She stated that  every 24 hours the court would be  notified as to                                                              
the status of an  individual in the facility and  of any transport                                                              
[to  another facility].   A  court hearing  would be  held if  the                                                              
individual  objects  to being  held  or has  any  questions.   She                                                              
stated  that  this  would  be  the  importance  of  appointing  an                                                              
attorney and  guardian early,  because additional judicial  review                                                              
could be  requested.  She  stated that  in this process,  or flow,                                                              
the court would  issue the ex parte hold for the  admission to the                                                              
crisis  residential  center,  so   the  court  would  be  involved                                                              
immediately.   She  reviewed that  when an  individual stays  more                                                              
than  the  23-hour  and 59-minutes  in  the  crisis  stabilization                                                              
center,  the  court  would  become  involved,  evidence  would  be                                                              
presented,  and a recommendation  would be  made.  Upon  admission                                                              
to  the crisis  residential  facility,  she  stated, a  notice  of                                                              
arrival  or notice  of rights would  be reported  to the  attorney                                                              
and guardian.   She  asserted that  this would  be the  process to                                                              
make sure no one is lost in the system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:58:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRALY,  in   response  to  a  follow-up   question,  affirmed                                                              
Representative  McCarty's  understanding   of  the  process.    In                                                              
response  to  Co-Chair  Zulkosky,  she  agreed  that  there  is  a                                                              
natural tension  in the current  system between the  mental health                                                              
treatment  component  of  a  civil commitment  and  the  role  law                                                              
enforcement  plays.   She  stated  that the  proposed  legislation                                                              
would not  take law enforcement out  of the process, but  it would                                                              
radically  minimize the  involvement  law enforcement  has in  the                                                              
psychiatric mental  health system.  She continued that  "all of us                                                              
agree,  get that  criminal law  enforcement component  out of  the                                                              
psychiatric  level of  care."   She  stated  that the  legislation                                                              
would  change a multiple  hour drive  for law  enforcement  into a                                                              
10-minute  drop off  at a center,  where the  individual would  be                                                              
treated  by  mental  health professionals.    She  suggested  that                                                              
tension  between  law enforcement  and  the mental  health  system                                                              
would be mitigated and reduced.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:03:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRALY, in  response  to Representative  Spohnholz,  explained                                                              
that guardianship is  a legal process outlined in  Title 13 of the                                                              
Alaska Statutes.   She  stated that guardians  are appointed  by a                                                              
judge, and  it is  a formal legal  process.   She said  that there                                                              
are two  types of guardianships,  public and private.   The Office                                                              
of Public  Advocacy would  appoint public  guardians.   She stated                                                              
that in the last  committee of referral it was  determined that an                                                              
individual  who  has  suffered a  behavioral  crisis  most  likely                                                              
would already have  a guardian, public or private.   She said that                                                              
guardians   have  a  unique   role,  as   they  assume   the  same                                                              
responsibilities  as a parent.   A  guardian with  a ward  has the                                                              
ability to advocate  and communicate with the  healthcare provider                                                              
in the  mental health  system to  facilitate treatment,  voluntary                                                              
or  otherwise.   While the  guardian does  not have  the right  to                                                              
administer  medication for  their  ward, he/she  could testify  in                                                              
support  of treatment  with  psychotropic  medication.   She  said                                                              
that a  guardian would facilitate  communication with a  ward, and                                                              
it would be "like  having a parent on your side."   In response to                                                              
a follow-up question, she deferred to Ms. Carpenter.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENTER,  in  response,  explained  that  in  the  proposed                                                              
legislation   the   main   change  would   be   the   strengthened                                                              
communication  level   [with  the   guardian].    She   said  that                                                              
currently there  is no requirement  that guardians be  notified by                                                              
the court;  the proposed  legislation would  require the  guardian                                                              
be notified of  the time and place  of a hearing.  In  response to                                                              
a follow-up question,  she affirmed that a patient's  rights would                                                              
be strengthened with this notification.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:06:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA  recalled that,  in  the last  committee  of                                                              
referral,  there  had  been  concern  about  how  to  contact  the                                                              
guardian.   He questioned whether the  court would keep  a list of                                                              
guardians.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENER  responded that  the court has  the only list  of all                                                              
public and private guardianships.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:07:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY announced that HB 172 was held over.                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 172 Bill Packet.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 Definitions in AS 47.30.915.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
SFIN 5/12/2022 1:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 Hearing Request.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 Transmittal Letter.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Explanation of Changes Ver. O.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Fiscal Note - CSHB172-DOA-PDA-2-18-22.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Fiscal Note - HB 172-DFCS-IMH-2-11-2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Fiscal Note - HB 172-DOH-MS-2-11-2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Fiscal Note - HB 172-DPS-DET-02-16-22.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Fiscal Note - HB172CS(JUD)-JUD-ACS-02-17-22.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - HHSS Presentation 3.8.2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Infographics - Proposed Statutory Changes to Title 47 3.6.22.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Supporting Document - Disability Law Center Ltr 3.7.22.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - Sectional Anaylsis Ver. O.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB 172 - ver. O.PDF HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172
HB297 Research NCTSN child_maltreatment_military_families_providers.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB297 Sponsor Statement 2.24.2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB297 Supporting Materials BP2022-ChildAbuseIdentificationandReporting 2.4.2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB297 Supporting Materials DP2022-ChildProtection 2.4.2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB 297 Bill Hearing Request Memo 2.24.2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB 297 Sectional Analysis Version B.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB0297B.PDF HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB297 Fiscal Note.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB297 Letter of Support DOD 2.4.2022.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB297 Presentation.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB297 Research DOD Instruction - Family Advocacy Program.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 297
HB 172 Testimony as of 3-8-22.pdf HHSS 3/8/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 172